Curse

Valeria · Jan 23, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Vamp mods have one big malus... they are NO fun to play in PvE. Sure its no problem to heal you with only -1 degeneration and you can switch the weapons any time once you are out of combat.
But its annoying to switch weapons every time and makes you lose the normal hp regeneration over time.

Elemental dmg is not that good. you don't profit from many spells (like order of...) anymore and if you are fighting ranger or ele enemies, you'll face a lot of elemental resistance. I would use a fire mod only in combination with conjure flame or something like that or for farming certain enemies.

thats why many rely on sundering because you have a bonus without any drawback. Crippling, cruel and other condition upgrades are nice too but you have to use certain skills to make any use of them.

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The only place my tests have ever seen a difference is with criticals. It's negligible on any regular attack I have tried.

Thats only because criticals do a fixed amount of damage. If you get +20%dmg on a attack that deals 10-20 dmg you won't notice (unless you deal 21+dmg). The dmg bonus doesn't change if you get a critical or not.

Jetdoc · Jan 23, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

I repeat, it's a matter of preference.

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Originally Posted by Valeria

But its annoying to switch weapons every time..

thats why many rely on sundering because you have a bonus without any drawback.

Translation: If you are either (1) easily annoyed or (2) lazy, Sundering is a valid preference.

If you want to maximize your damage, Vampiric is the clear choice.

The Way Out · Jan 23, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

Why yes, I do. I know that I'm not a gear elitist fresh from World of Warcrack. To be honest, I prefer the Elemental sword hilts to the others.

I don't play WoW and never will, dude. I play to win, and that means being the best that I can be. There is enough statistics out there that have proven vampiric tops sundering and rehashing this become an opinion forum. My opinion or your opinion.. DOES NOT MATTER... the stats say that vampiric does more damage than sundering.

As for you starting to flame, grow up nub.

moriz · Jan 23, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42

noob: suchandsuch is better because i believe it is!
JR: statistics show that thisotherthing is better than suchandsuch.
noob: you are an elitist world of warcrack a-hole because you maximize your damage efficiency! i am better than you because i'm NOT an elitist world of warcrack a-hole, and because i'm too lazy/stupid to maximize my damage efficiency, and i'm gonna insult you to feel better about myself!

this thread in a nutshell.

Chicken Ftw · Jan 23, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Translation: If you are either (1) easily annoyed or (2) lazy, Sundering is a valid preference.

If you want to maximize your damage, Vampiric is the clear choice.

/thread

Close due to pointlessness ftw?

Earth · Jan 23, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

Weren't those people camping in Heroes' Ascent trash talking everyone who isn't in their elite little gathering? Don't tell me they migrated to PvE...

Shut up Kai. Just because you're so ignorant of facts doesn't mean people are elitist.

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

I repeat, it's a matter of preference.

It's a matter of which is better. Sure, you may prefer Sundering over Vampiric, but that doesn't mean it's better.

The Way Out · Jan 23, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

Weren't those people camping in Heroes' Ascent trash talking everyone who isn't in their elite little gathering? Don't tell me they migrated to PvE...

I always thought Elitists were the close-minded and arrogant people that bash everyone without reason or explanation and base everything off of their personal preference, claiming their way is the only way.... wait a minute... am I explaining a certain someone who uses "preference" and calls people names when he doesn't know them? Err... dude... you can call me an elitist, but you clearly act like one! Keep thinking sundering is better than vampiric and I will keep laughing at your half-hearted keyboard flexing... pcthug.

Go back to Diablo and point-and-click your way to glory. Leave PvP opinions to smarter ppl.

Taurucis · Jan 23, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by Earth

Shut up Kai. Just because you're so ignorant of facts doesn't mean people are elitist.

It's a matter of which is better. Sure, you may prefer Sundering over Vampiric, but that doesn't mean it's better.

So we're not friends anymore? Fine, I see how it is. Looks like a couple months in seperate guilds is really that hard on you, eh?

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Originally Posted by moriz

noob: suchandsuch is better because i believe it is!
JR: statistics show that thisotherthing is better than suchandsuch.
noob: you are an elitist world of warcrack a-hole because you maximize your damage efficiency! i am better than you because i'm NOT an elitist world of warcrack a-hole, and because i'm too lazy/stupid to maximize my damage efficiency, and i'm gonna insult you to feel better about myself!

this thread in a nutshell.

Who's doing the insulting, hmm?

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

I always thought Elitists were the close-minded and arrogant people that bash everyone without reason or explanation and base everything off of their personal preference, claiming their way is the only way.... wait a minute... am I explaining a certain someone who uses "preference" and calls people names when he doesn't know them? Err... dude... you can call me an elitist, but you clearly act like one! Keep thinking sundering is better than vampiric and I will keep laughing at your half-hearted keyboard flexing... pcthug.

Go back to Diablo and point-and-click your way to glory. Leave PvP opinions to smarter ppl.

You want to bring insults into this?

Ekelon · Jan 23, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Use 33% bleed. Spread the bleeding around!

Earth · Jan 23, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

So we're not friends anymore? Fine, I see how it is. Looks like a couple months in seperate guilds is really that hard on you, eh?

I couldn't care less because I've basically quit playing GW, except from the one or 2 odd times when I manage to stay on for 5 minutes before my computer crashes <_<

Fact is, Vampiric is better. You're trying to go around every point people make by saying they are World of Warcrack elitists?

Sounds like you're just being ignorant :\

moriz · Jan 23, 2008, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Taurucis is using Whirling Defense!
Taurucis is using Bonneti's Defense!
Taurucis is using Gladiator's Defense!
Taurucis is using Auspicious Riposte (or whatever that's called)!
Taurucis is using Escape!
Taurucis is using Natural Stride!
Taurucis is using Lightning Reflexes!
Taurucis is using Dryder's Defense!

EVERYONE RUN!!!! HIS STANCES ARE UUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Taurucis · Jan 23, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Earth

I couldn't care less because I've basically quit playing GW, except from the one or 2 odd times when I manage to stay on for 5 minutes before my computer crashes <_<

Fact is, Vampiric is better. You're trying to go around every point people make by saying they are World of Warcrack elitists?

Sounds like you're just being ignorant :\

There's no reason to just toss old friends and guildies aside because you quit. You've pretty much announced to the world that you're a fairweathered friend.

I wasn't calling them world of Warcrack elitists. I was pointing out how much they were behaving like WoW elitists.

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EVERYONE RUN!!!! HIS STANCES ARE UUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Her.* And a number of those skills I don't even have...

Auspicious Parry, by the way.

Wakka · Jan 23, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

I love cry fests.

Earth your cat makes me smile

Arkantos · Jan 23, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

So another sundering vs vamp thread, with some edrama from ex-guildies. Thanks for the lulz, but I'm going to close this now.